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  1. The King Is Dead - Long Live The King!

    V70 T6 was and still is the best all round police vehicle I have driven, not quite the fastest, but all round an amazing car.
  2. Cnc Question

    Just wondered why CNC officers are not normally able to transfer to other forces? My current force are taking transferee firearms officers and the advert is very clear that CNC can not apply but MOD officers can. Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of each force but a lot of the work seems similar so is there something different in the training which means CNC can't transfer?
  3. What other way do you propose the police enforce traffic legislation, specifically driving licence requirements? Suspicionless stops is the only way, otherwise as long as you didn't commit any other offences you could drive around without a licence all day every day safe that you could never be stopped
  4. Experience With Nca Officers

    From a uniform perspective the only time you see them is when you get a cryptic email saying you're needed for an entry team, vehicle stop team etc, be at this place at this time for details and nothing else. Then you rock up and someone with a baseball cap tells you what is going on
  5. Armed Btp

    Generally the firearms guys are reasonably happy, this could be because it's a good posting or it could be that the rest of BTP is so unhappy they realise how lucky they are to be away from the majority of BTP's world.
  6. you can get a muvi body worn video camera for £30 on amazon, great quality, decent memory and very useful as evidence. If you call the police to report you have been assaulted they will investigate but it is very hard if not impossible to get a jury or magistrates to convict someone of a criminal offence based on one persons word when they are denying it, especially when the one person giving evidence against them is involved in an ongoing neighbor dispute with them. 30 seconds of video footage would change all of that
  7. Failed Vetting Appealing Success...?

    Have they given you any idea as to why you failed?
  8. In fairness to the officer who can't give his side there does appear to be enough evidence of theft to initially investigate and while the OP might have been in a very bad place that doesn't mean he didn't realise that taking the scrubs was wrong. The law unfortunately only accepts insanity and nothing less as a defence (apart from for murder) so as long as the doctors say you did have you ability to know what was going on at the time it is a tough one. Would it be in the public interest to prosecute? Definitely not unless there is more to the story, but community resolution is a low level, informal, non legally binding method of disposing of a crime, only record is local and has the circumstances on the record of this so perhaps the officer felt it was better for everyone including the OP if instead of dragging this through CPS it was dealt with quickly and without any serious consequence. If your case went before the wrong CPS lawyer with a statement from A&E and a statement from a doctor stating you had the mental capacity to understand your actions then it could be suggested by the wrong lawyer that you actually stole from a hospital and once its before the court with that evidence they might find no other option but to convict, as unpalatable as it sounds. I've seen patients detained under s2 charged with offences of damages the hospital property because the doctor said they had capacity to understand their decisions, so despite being under a MHA section they were convicted. Worth thinking about this from that perspective as having seen this happen I might have been tempted to do the same as this officer to prevent the OP being dragged through the 'justice' system
  9. To say the police don't care about sides of the story is entirely right and a good thing. The police are there to be impartial and not care about each side but to objectively gather facts and evidence and decide if there is sufficient evidence to prosecute (or let the CPS decide). The police aren't there to determine guilt, aren't there to believe or disbelieve only gather evidence. So don't be so shocked, see it as the very definition of impartiality which every wants from the police until they are told their complaint has been investigated impartially and there isn't sufficient evidence to support a prosecution, then people want to be believed. A PIN is information ,as the name suggests. It is just information that the behaviour which is alleged could constitute harassment. Our PINs had wording along the lines of NO JUDGEMENT IS BEING MADE ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE ALLEGATION AT THIS STAGE BUT THIS NOTICE SERVES AS A WARNING THAT SUCH CONDUCT, IF PROVED, COULD AMOUNT TO HARRASSMENT The notice will not change anything on an enhanced DBS, it will show the crime as reported if the disclosure officer considers it relevant, and it will show as no further action regardless of a PIN because a PIN is just information about what could amount to an offence, the same as information is given to scrap metal dealers telling them buying lead from people with no receipts and no business ID and no VAT number who claim to have found it in the loft is likely to be seen as handling stolen goods
  10. Btp are changing their shift pattern soon, it's currently with chief officers, likely to be a shift pattern that has 1 weekend off in 6 or something similar. Because football on Saturdays involves tens of thousands of cancelled rest days a year the chief has decided just to make Saturday a permanent day for everyone pretty much every week. Also you will learn very rapidly that every single call you attend will be scrutinised by at least a chief inspector and probably higher. When I was acting for a bit we had a daily conference call. Based on my previous experience I expected they would ask about serious incidents. No they asked about every incident. I had to explain in details what my team did regarding a drunk male who passed out in a toilet. my explanation that we woke him up and sent him on his way wasn't satisfactory apparently!
  11. Peaceful Areas

    I think the 1990s were very different. Some times of crime existed then which don't really now, like joy riding. Some crime exists now which didn't really then like social media crimes. Lots of things were never reported to police, lots of things that were reported to police never made it to everyone's attention via facebook
  12. Katerina I know this is undoubtably a stressful and unpleasant situation, I have been in a similar situation where my neighbour was terribly anti-social, 4am music blasting out before I had to be up at 5am for an early shift, leaving rubbish in our communal areas etc so I do understand your situation. However I also understand how while you want the police to help they are probably not best placed to. Some of what you have reported may well be a criminal offence, such as the damage to the door but there isn't any direct evidence your neighbour did this. No one saw him, the nature of the offence (low value criminal damage means that forensic investigation is unlikely). If you were looking in from the outside and not involved and understandably stressed by this situation you would see that while nobody saw Ian Huntly commit murder there was a considerable body of evidence against him. In this case there is only your assumption, which however logical, is not going to convince the magistrates. Also, it might be worth considering if he is indeed a drug dealer he would have undesirable people coming and going, could someone he owes or owes him money have written DIE on the door, I've certainly seen similar things before. So perhaps it isn't him doing this, just he is the cause of it? Same as your car, was it parked right outside? If people are coming and going when he deals then lots of undesirable people could have done this. The drug use and dealing is also something the police can and will deal with but this is a relatively slow process where intelligence is gathered, worked with and eventually someone is targeted, you might not even know it has happened, for all you know your neighbour was arrested in the street and officers attended with his keys to search his flat while you were out. But that is the end of the police bit. The noise issues are a matter for the council, the environmental health officer has the legal powers needed to investigate whereas the police don't. Finally, arresting someone is complex. If you were arrested for burglary it was probably to enable the officers to interview you and also to search your address for the stolen property. In this case, even if there was evidence he committed the damage there doesn't seem to be a reason to arrest him. He could be interviewed at his address and sent to court without taking him to the police station. Please get in touch with the council and housing association and get them to deal with his antisocial behaviour and continue reporting his drug use and potential dealing to police as it will be useful, although you will never hear what is done with it
  13. I've had to do this form about 5 times, initial application, transferee applications, specialist post applications. I've never paid more than £35 for it! However I have often had to have a long conversation with the medical secretary to get them to realise that all the form requires is verification against the records, not a medical assessment in any way. Keep trying with them and explain this form is normally charged at this sort of rate, they may realise :)
  14. Process Book Warning Formula

    They need the warning because someone writing the law decided it, that's about it. The reason the list looks like it doesn't contain them all is because the schedule is a nightmare, the final column lists what section the schedule applies to, only some of it applies to section 1, the other long list of offences apply to other sections, why would anyone think law makers would make a nice simple table
  15. Process Book Warning Formula

    Yea, I'm not sure on that. It's not clear in the book. It just shows the Formula. Stating that it is what it is...a formula. A way to do something. Il ask a traffic sergeant on CJU and get an answer to report back. Thanks anyway guys Hi Traffic Sergeant or CJU will give you the same answer. It must be used for any of the offences on that list, if you don't the case will be thrown out. That is a legal thing, s1 Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988, automatic bar to prosecution if not given. Any other offence it is perfectly acceptable to still use as the method of reporting them, although you don't have to for mobile phone, seatbelt etc. I'd advise you either learn the list (like we had to on my roads policing course) or use it for every case so you don't come unstuck.