The Black Rabbit

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  1. Crash

    All forces within England & Wales were expected to be feeding information into the new system by March 2016.
  2. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    Sorry about the multiple posts, had a senior moment & screwed up. Didn't realise until I posted and couldn't find a way to correct it. note to oneself - "Must try harder"
  3. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    No - Speed Traps are not "purely for raising revenue" they are to enforce the Law, simple, you drive at excess speed you break the law, camera vans catch you and you get a fine because you broke the law. That be as it may, we agree then, that they have nothing whatsoever to do with road safety and/or casualty reduction. The existence of speed traps/Camera vans etc relies purely on law breaking. If it's not about revenue why the fine as well as the points?. Also: What's the price of a speed awareness course these days? how many 'offenders' on average attend a given course? What's the duration of a speed awareness course? Why is the option of attending a speed awareness course given? Regarding offences previously quoted in this thread, in order to 'obstruct a Police Officer in the execution . . . .etc.' there first has to be a police officer present to be obstructed. It's my understanding that 'camera vans' are manned by civilian staff, in which case rules out that particular offence doesn't it? Of course they have something to do with road safety, drivers are less likely to speed because of the threat of being caught speeding by them, I thought everyone would be able to see that. That is a rather ridiculous statement. If what you say was true then nobody would ever break the speed limit. It has been made quite obvious in previous posts, that the sole object of speed traps etc. is to catch speeding drivers, not to slow them down.
  4. Crash

    Hi guys, are many of you out there using the 'new' Collision Recording And SHaring System yet? or as we fondly know it CRASH If so, how are you getting on with it? How do you rate is for ease of use? Have you found any issues with it? Just getting to grips with it myself.
  5. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    No - Speed Traps are not "purely for raising revenue" they are to enforce the Law, simple, you drive at excess speed you break the law, camera vans catch you and you get a fine because you broke the law. That be as it may, we agree then, that they have nothing whatsoever to do with road safety and/or casualty reduction. The existence of speed traps/Camera vans etc relies purely on law breaking. If it's not about revenue why the fine as well as the points?. Also: What's the price of a speed awareness course these days? how many 'offenders' on average attend a given course? What's the duration of a speed awareness course? Why is the option of attending a speed awareness course given? Regarding offences previously quoted in this thread, in order to 'obstruct a Police Officer in the execution . . . .etc.' there first has to be a police officer present to be obstructed. It's my understanding that 'camera vans' are manned by civilian staff, in which case rules out that particular offence doesn't it?
  6. Electric Scooter

    Where does this vehicle fall within the Road Traffic Act etc, in terms of Registration,Tax, Insurance, Licence, Helmet, riding on road, riding on footway etc?? It is fully electric & has pedals but in no way can it be considered an electrically assisted bicycle. How would you classify this vehicle for Stats 19 purposes?
  7. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    Having read through this thread again, are we agreed then, that speed traps are purely for raising revenue and have nothing to do with road safety and/or casualty reduction?
  8. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    Can you cite a case to quantify your claim?
  9. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    Why would the 'errant driver' be interviewed? we have yet to establish an offence, especially if the camera van is manned by civilian staff. A police officer would be hard pressed to see the flashing headlights of a vehicle that had already passed him. Anyway, I thought that we had already established that flashing ones headlights is not an offence, or have I got this wrong? The mixed views are very confusing, but no-one has posted specific legislation regarding this issue & potential offences.
  10. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    I don't give up too easily when trying to seek clarity on a legality. (Not trying to be a troll). Surely there cannot be a 'grey area' where legislation is concerned or the whole legal system would be liable to collapse, so there can't be a 'yes & no' answer. I originally asked about about the legality surrounding the warning of other drivers of the presence of a mobile speed camera van, (I never mentioned headlights) so far from the posted responses we have: flashing your lights is a separate offence. But the rule in the highway code regarding the flashing of headlights (Rule 110) has no legal backing. then we have the proposed offence of 'obstructing a Police Officer etc, yet every mobile speed camera van seems to be manned by civilian personnel, not Police Officers, so this offence cannot be applicable. So, in short, no-one has stated specific legislation that makes the action of warning other drivers of the presence of a mobile speed camera van, illegal in itself. Therefore we can only surmise, (unless someone provides specific legislation to the contrary) that to do so is not in fact an offence. Agreed?
  11. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    So, reading through the replies thus far, it would seem that it is not an offence to warn other drivers/road users to the presence of a mobile speed camera van. Am I correct?
  12. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    So, the flashing of headlights, in itself, is not a separate offence as claimed earlier. have I understood this correctly? just trying to obtain clarity.
  13. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    Could you point me to the specific legislation (Act/Statutory Instrument) please?
  14. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    The guy in the highlighted articles in post #4 was convicted of 'obstructing a police officer in the execution of their duty'. If the method of speed enforcement was a mobile camera van, manned by a civilian (as they are), what offence would then be committed, by warning oncoming drivers?
  15. Mobile Speed Enforcement

    Just a quick question, if you drive past a mobile speed enforcement camera, be it a camera van or an officer with a hand held device, is it and offence to warn approaching drivers of its presence?