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  1. Predicting the future

    The Windsor report (just looked up) says 3 A levels or equivalent.   Public services diplomas can be level 1, level 2 (GCSE equivalent) level 3 subsidiary (equivalent to 2 A levels) and level 3 extended (equivalent to 3 A levels). The qualification my son is considering is the latter. I know the lecturers are there to sell the course but asking questions such as what % of students went where & doing what, on completion, can help give a more objective view of how well the qualification is valued. We asked a lot of questions. The lecturer we spoke to said that many students start the course adamant that they want to join the police but during the 2 years discover (though visits, scenarios, guest lecturers) other paths that appeal more.  The students are graded via essays, reports, presentations, role play scenarios and self evaluations. They have a lot of opportunity to experience situations they can use to answer interview questions of "Give me an example of a time when you...." He also said that wherever my son goes after the course (uni/employment) that he is strongly advised to join the specials if he intends to apply for the regular police service. I have 2 older children who took A levels & have gone on to university. Either choice is restrictive to a point and my 3rd child, in many ways brighter than the other 2, is less of an academic & more hands on than his siblings. Thanks for your opinions, they have given us food for thought.
  2. Predicting the future

    Thanks for the replies. We've just been to an open day at our local college and spoke to a tutor for the level 3 public services diploma and were pleasantly surprised. The tutors are almost all previously or currently employed within relevant occupations and previous students have progressed on to a wide variety of university courses (law, business, criminology, social sciences). The students gain insight into many careers and many discover options they never knew existed. I don't feel that this course will narrow his options any more than picking 3 A levels will and if he does still want to join the police force, then he would have access to people who can help him apply for the specials & advise him on the current politics and best way forward.Â
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    Hi everyone. Hope you can help me, to help my son choose the most appropriate path forward. My son is age 15 (in school year 11. GCSE year) and has been keen to pursue a career in the police service for some time. He now has the choice of continuing on to A levels next year or doing an 'equivalent' level course. He is very interested in doing a 2 year diploma in public services (uniformed) with the intention of following this with a foundation degree/degree in policing that also involves work as a special. Basically the dilemma is, will successfully following the above plan increase his chances of recruitment (over A levels followed by other university course/customer based employment) or just limit his choices? I realise that he's also more likely to work hard at a course that has a clear desirable objective than one I've twisted his arm to take. I know that at 15, he's still a naive youngster liable to change his mind but he has wanted to become a police officer for a while, despite hearing lots of reasons why it's an awful thankless job and tbh I think he'd suit the job: He has integrity, can communicate easily with all walks of life and would hate to be sat at a desk all day. I guess my real question is, where are police force entries headed? Is the service in a similar position to paramedics, in that there are now very few apprentice type learn on the job positions and more posts being filled from full-time paramedic university courses that incorporate placements with regional ambulance services? Are there moves to get X% of officers educated to degree level? If so, in the current economic climate, why would the very oversubscribed police force pay to train their staff when applicants are willing to take student finance loans to be trained at university? Does anyone know the applicant to place ratios for university policing courses? Sorry if this post is a bit rambling, but if anyone can enlighten me I'd be very grateful.