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  1. Ring recruitment and have them add it to your form. Explain the situation to them. Out of interest, what was the conviction? (Assuming you're willing to share this)
  2. As the old saying goes "You don't know until you try"
  3. No police action was taken for either instance, why would you even bother including that in your application? It's absolutely irrelevant and may cause issues. On both occasions two things will of happened; - You would of been PNC checked and your licence checked - Your car would of been PNC checked to show insurance, registered keeper and MOT These details are NOT kept on record in instances where there were no offences. Therefore there is no need to declare this or worry one iota about it.
  4. I was over on BMI when I joined GMP, MDP then Cheshire. I'm 6"4' and a regular weight lifter and have been for 15years or so now. I've also played professional rugby league, boxed and still keep up fitness. I'm by no means 'ripped', I do have unwanted weight to shift. The only issue I had was with the MDP and the Dr wouldn't pass me, he told me I had 16kgs to lose in 6 weeks - yes 6 weeks! I appealed immediately, literally I rang recruitment as I walked through the door on the way out. Before I got home I had an email telling me the occupational health nurse had overturned the Dr and passed me. Fast forward 18months and I joined Cheshire. I had my medical and he had absolutely no issue in passing me despite me being way over on the BMI. Common sense prevailed. Setting aside weight training, do you do fitness? How active are you? How often? You'll need to lodge an appeal and if it is to be successful you need to put those answers in and expand on them.
  5. It's what has been being said for years finally come to fruition. The Government as usual have attempted to absolve themselves of any blame if you notice the quote from Brandon Lewis (The Minister for Policing and the Fire Service) - "This Government has protected police funding, through the 2015 Spending Review. "There can be no excuse for any force that fails to deliver on its obligations - those identified as inadequate or requiring improvement must take HMIC's findings very seriously and I expect to see rapid improvements." What he fails to mention was the crippling budget cuts which came before it leaving most forces simply incapable of recruiting year on year and losing more than they're gaining.
  6. A little bit old this thread now but I thought I'd share my experiences of being in 2 different forces as a probationer: MDP Awful. Truly awful. Anyone above Inspector didn't give a toss and it was rare an Inspector cared (I had a great Inspector on my section so I got lucky). From the moment I left training to the moment I left the force I couldn't wait to get out. There was no backing for any aspirations you may have and absolutely no empathy or consideration given to officers who were struggling as I was due to personal circumstances. All they cared about was that you were on your gate. Cheshire I joined quite recently and I have to admit I have loved every single second of it. I was in training for a short period due to having the policing degree and previous long term Special experience. There were a few minor teething issues when I left the training school such as various computer systems not being updated but they were ironed out quickly. The support network available is absolutely superb, the backing and help I've received from supervision up to the ACC was outstanding. They introduced themselves and spoke to me like a person and not just as a number. Obviously I respected rank, but it felt like a conversation with a friend. The people on my block are brilliant and will drop anything to help you out and this prevelant amongst my block. We have a block of over half probationers but it's a well run, well oiled block with a wealth of knowledge and experience behind it. Going back to the original post I genuinely can't believe you've were set arrest records. Surely this goes against PACE? I can partly understand detection rates but if you're given a job which is going nowhere commonly what are you supposed to do? Gene Hunt it and pin it on someone? I do hope in the 12/13 months or so that have passed since this post that it has improved for you and you're still in the job.
  7. Congratulations!
  8. Yep, hence the "whole world of the proverbial"
  9. Thinking about it you couldn't get away with just not telling anyone - it's in your medical records. Unless of course you fake them and then you're in a whole world of the proverbial.
  10. I've not heard of an epileptic officer in any of the police forces I've served/serving in (MDP, GMP and Cheshire) but that may be down to what you have stated - the stigma that MIGHT and SHOULDN'T come with it. I've emphasized might and shouldn't because as police officers it shouldn't bring any stigma. The same as another Officers religion, sexuality etc shouldn't but that's for another day. Back to the original question, I'd imagine that the final decision would lay with Occupational Health and/or the Driving School. There's many different factors to consider like how often are the fits? What triggers them? Granted I know little about epilepsy but those for me would be the basic foundations of a decision.
  11. I always make time for refs, even if it's on the go knocking up a case file or updating several incidents. But as for eating on shift, I couldn't tell you why but I don't tend to eat at work. I'll drink loads of water but I won't eat. but I'm just weird like that 😃
  12. This couldn't of been Specials as Specials can only get A-B driving. There is no authority to stop vehicles on this driving.
  13. I'm a former Special (joined the job as a regular PC late 2015) but I'll answer; 1) Greater Manchester Police 2) Totally dependant on work. I worked in the building trade whilst a Special so it would depend on how busy I was. Generally between 8-10hrs a week but there were times when I went 2/3months without going on duty due to work. 3) Yes. We were given basic law training, like literally a skim over of the offences and different ways of committing them. I appreciate it's generally weekend training for Specials but it needed to be more in depth. Also, the operational side such as use of computer systems was non existent, I didn't know what an MG11 form was until a few weeks into being out and as for any other MG forms I didn't know they existed. I think I'm right in saying since 2012 GMP revamped the training for Specials to significantly upskill them. However, there is a responsibility on the individual to self learn. 4) No. 5) After 2 years I completed a tutor course and a S165 seizure course. 6) I'd attached myself to a particular shift and I'd work predominantly with the PCSO's but on occasions I would go out with a PC who I knew very well. That was my choice (after clearing it with the Sergeant) 7) To see if I wanted to be a cop. Was it for me? 8) No, that's not to say I ever hid it from anyone who asked but the public see a uniform and don't care if it's a Special or a regular - they expect you to be a police officer and do your duty equally.
  14. I'd certainly hope that it wasn't a regular officer. Common sense must surely dictate that situation? The discussion about Specials is an interesting one. I joined GMP as a Special in 2010 and did 5 years before getting a PC role with another force. I also did the Policint degree at the same time (not that that made me a Super Special) but I did have a more indepth knowledge than some. Specials are keen to learn, keen to help and keen to get stuck in - only a few that I've met have been anything but, however there is a significant gap between roles. My S/Sgt was 25 years in the job. Regulars would ask HIM for advice, now that's an experience you will rarely see these days.
  15. Sorry to hear that mate. If it's any consolation it took me 7 attempts and 8 years to get in. Never give up and learn from past failures. Its hard to take and I know it, take time now to reflect and study the feedback given but more than anything - DON'T GIVE UP!