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  1. This is a tough one.. A harrassment warning (In my force anyhow) is exactly as it sounds. A warning!! The normal procedure would be to take a statement from person being harrassed (Your daughter in the presense of an appropriate adult). An officer would go to the offenders house and get them to sign something that states they acknowledge they have been warned and that would be the end of it. The harrassment warning would sit on file (Not as a criminal record) and if any further incidents occurred that were reported by the aggrieved then a further statement would be taken and the offender would be arrested. This is all very simple if it is two adults involved but untimately when it's minors then things are more complicated. In short you can't keep your daughter out of it. For a warning to be issued then she would have to provide a written statement (There is no) way round this, and you, as her appropriate adult would be accepting that she would be happy to go to court in relation to the incidents if this continues. If you are not prepared to have your daughter go to court then the warning is toothless. This is something only you (and your daughter) could answer and I have had this conversation with many sets of parents. It certaintly isn't ideal and not something that would normally happen until all other possible courses of action have been looked at. Harrassment is a funny thing too. Courts look at evidence so make sure your daughter knows not to send any messages the other way that could be deemed similar. Hope this helps.
  2. He needs to make sure he is legally represented. As this is an open investigation we shouldn't really be commenting on here.
  3. You could argue it, but that defence may not be accepted.. The smart thing to do would have been to back off and not lay hands on the other party. How long ago was this?
  4. Technically pushing somebody is common assault. You could argue self defence in this case though im sure.
  5. You ask if it is a breach of harassment warning. What does it state on the warning that he shouldn't do?
  6. police cautions

    I doub't it was a caution if it was given to you in your home. More likely a harassment warning or a telling off
  7. Sorry if I worded it like that. I simply meant that if the officer is sympathetic to your view (That you really didn't know) then he might choose not to summons you. It will involve him/her sitting down and doing an hours worth of paperwork to process. I've written them off as not being in the public interest before - it could simply come down to how strict the officer is on traffic matters, or even how busy they are. If your 4 months in its looking promising.
  8. James, What did you do with the fixed penalty notice that you were given. I'm presuming that if you appealed the ticket then you sent the bottom slip off requesting a court appearance. If I were you I wouldn't chase the officer up about this. Put quite simply they have 6 months to summons you to court if they intend going ahead with a prosecution. If your summons doesn't appear in these 6 months then you have got away with it. If you are summonsed then the bad news im afraid is that you stand very little chance of getting away with it. Driving with no insurance is an absolute offence. You either have it or you don't and in the eyes of the law the driver always commits the offence. The likely outcome is 6 points, an increased fine and having to pay the £15 victim surcharge. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
  9. Being Accepted

    What are the other drink related incidents/brushes with the law?
  10. Merseyside Training

    Morning Stacy, Firstly congratulations on getting a far as you have so far. Im presuming that as they are vetting you now you mut have passed your assessment centre and interview. Lea Green was two years ago for me but I shall do my best with your questions. Firstly, BCU wise you dont get a choice although they will normally have you working in the BCU where you live or the one nextdoor, but this is never guaranteed. They let you know on your first day, but recruitment will know beforehand so once getting your acceptance a quick call to them and you should be able to find out. With regards to leave during your initial training this is already set for you. When I did mine there was a weeks leave set for week 19, and another for after your tutor constable period which off memory is something like week 32 although I stand to be corrected on this. I know there have recently been a number of changed, certaintly in my BCU how student officers go through whereby all your time with a tutor is spent at the end of Lea Green rather than blocks of 2 weeks, 2 weeks and 6 weeks so leave dates may have been changed. They will for sure though still be set in stone. Good luck with the vetting and be patient. Its a very frustrating process but worth it in the end.
  11. Hiya PC Tomo, Firstly, you need to remember to be completely straight with the recruitment team at Cheshire if this is what you decide to do. Regardless of if you think it sounds bad or not, trying to hide it sounds lots lots worse and there is no point as they will find out. I dont see anything wrong with it in principle - I was exactly the same when I joined in that id have been happy to work for either Cheshire or Merseyside. The problem might arise though if the interviewer goes down the lines of asking you why Cheshire Police. I may be wrong about this, but im sure there is also a time limit as to how long assessment centre passes are valid for. There is always the chance that you will have to resit it. Good luck with it all, and remember to not try hiding anything from them.
  12. Sickness

    Yes, it varies depending on where you are applying. Im not sure about Derbyshire I have to say, but im sure there is someone on here that can fill you in. Merseyside currently goes by the rule that if you have had more than 3 periods of sickness over the past three years then they wont even consider your application. They are very strict with this and the only exeptions are sickness periods related to either disability or pregnancy. Best of luck, and do everything you can to avoid taking sick days in the mean time. I resorted to going in and being ill at my desk. It didnt make me popular but I got the job I wanted in the end (-:
  13. Reference - is this allowed?

    Phone your recruitment team. They will tell you exactly what to do.
  14. It all depends on the circumstances of how you took the money. You say in your intital post that you always intended to give the money back. Theft by definition is: "Dishonestly appropriating property with the intention to permanently deprive" If you can show that you intended to give the money back then it cant be theft. Can you show this? Remember its not your ex employers decision to press charges - this is upto the CPS. If you are convicted of theft or any fraud type offence though I would give up on the application. Im sure there are isolated incidents of people being accepted with dishonesty convictions, but not with a recent one for something of this nature.
  15. 6 month between apps

    Hi Michelle, youll be fine with that. It only applies if you are applying to be a police officer again. Ian