Look, Moxnil, there comes a point where you have to have some social responsibility. Knife crime is a problem, and people get stabbed and die, and the problem is growing. We are all aware of this.
I consider it my social responsibility to carry one. When a car overturned in the states and an ordinary MOP came forward with a knife to cut the seatbelt, the off duty fireman later claimed was vital in rescuing the passengers. If you want to argue with the "oh that's so unlikely to happen", just keep in mind that the entire argument against carrying knives is based on a just as unlikely situation - that the person with a knife will use it as a weapon.
Can anyone here who opposes knives tell me that the man in that situation shouldn't have carried one?
Legislation is to try and stop knives being used as weapons. It is not there to stop them being used as knives. At the end of the day, I'm not inconveniencing myself to satisfy people who have an irrational fear. A line has to be drawn somewhere I agree, but not as far down as what you are suggesting.
I am perfectly willing on this forum to take you on your word and accept you in all likelihood wouldn't use the knife criminally. However, on the street I simply don't have that luxury - You may have no previous and be about to walk into the argument of your life. You could be going to stab someone who just slept with your wife. I don't know, and while I might have a general feeling one way or the other, that knife is coming off of you. It's not a power trip, an ego thing or any kind of complex, its a simple law that we all have to follow.
But such examples are so unlikely to happen that you have to wonder is it really worth considering them. I have had a couple of heated arguments when I had my knife on me, and no one got stabbed. So what are you worried about?
If what you want to say here is 'it's annoying that because of a load of knife wielding idiots I can't do my boy scout thing', then you are right. It's the same for all of us. I can't take my baton and cs home 'just in case' I see a crime on the journey, even though I know I could be trusted with only using it lawfully in the execution of my duty. That's just how it is, and flogging this poor pony that kicked the bucket somewhere on page 4 starts to become a load of trolling nonsense, because the concept is actually very straightforward, and underpins pretty much all the legislation there is.
It's not a "boy scout thing", it's a way of life. I agree with you about your baton and spray, you shouldn't have to suffer because your bosses are paranoid. Can't let him take his baton and spray home, it's not like he's a trained officer or anything
The idontcarryaknife website has good intentions. But they give rather nonsensical advice - walk instead of running away when confronted with a knife. They act like they have this divine right to tell people what to do, but at the same time I know they would refuse to accept responsibility if their advice landed someone in hot water. They try to convey knife carriers as unstable and violent. However they are right about one thing. Try taking a £40 knife from me, and I WILL escalate things.
Edited by Moxnil, 05 December 2012 - 08:28 AM.