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Posted 26 January 2014 - 11:43 AM

In nearly 25 Yeats service, 1. I have never owned a wallet ad warrant card holder does just fine to have a bank card, loyalty card and swine card to get in and out.
2. Always carried it more so as a means of photo I'd before photocard DL, and for the olden days of 'Flashing a Brief' to get into places when I was in London

Not that I condone such practice these days!!!

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 11:51 AM

Swine card? :D

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 03:17 PM

Techie ..... Stupid predictive text ... SWIPE

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 06:04 PM

I thought it was some sort of pig joke coming on. :joker:



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 06:35 PM

I thought it was some sort of pig joke coming on. :joker:

i thought the same lol

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 08:06 PM

I was thinking it was a special discount card for dunkin donuts :)

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 08:00 PM

I may be old school but I carried mine everywhere. Had a number of recall to duty incidents where it came in very handy. Mind you, I didn't go to music festivals or get sufficiently drunk in public to lose mine. No criticism implied, just a generational thing.
I do recall a story of a rather intoxicated colleague presenting his warrant card to a 'tom' for the purpose of securing a discount for… err favours… she took it off him and gave it to the desk Sgt. She complained to. Not clever :)


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Posted 08 March 2014 - 10:01 PM

What's a "recall to duty" incident?



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:36 AM

Off duty, witness a crime in progress, 'recall yourself' to duty to make the arrest or assist other officers or whatever.


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 10:16 AM

Not sure that I would class that as a "recall to duty" which is when your Force recalls you - surely it's just doing your duty.



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:07 AM

I've "Booked" myself on a few times over the years, had a disagreement with a Ch Insp who said I was using any person powers when I arrested a robber, I pointed out that I was told the Robbery had happened, so used my Police powers, and the 4+1 was mine.
Anyone would think it was his money FFS.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 12:06 PM

Nice one and well done.

i remember getting an internal email from another force. The Sergeant of a PC who had been driving through our force area while off duty wanted verification of an "incident" that one of his officer's was claiming 4 hrs OT for. The PC had phoned in a suspect sect 5, that's all. I'd like to think someone in his force kept him right....

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 04:47 PM

Not sure that I would class that as a "recall to duty" which is when your Force recalls you - surely it's just doing your duty.


That is what my old force classed it as… but I do wonder what people do if they are not carrying their warrant card and become aware a crime has been committed. To ignore it would be neglect of duty but no means to ID yourself.


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:04 PM

That is what my old force classed it as… but I do wonder what people do if they are not carrying their warrant card and become aware a crime has been committed. To ignore it would be neglect of duty but no means to ID yourself.


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Phone it in but don't get involved perhaps?!

Then again do you need ID? Would a citizens arrest be sufficient? If so, and assuming the officer knows the law much better than an average MoP, then...

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:23 PM

The piece of plastic that is your warrant card does not carry your powers. ie. if it is at home and you aren't you don't suddenly stop being a police officer. I've worked in plain clothes for a number of years in my service and have not once produced my warrant card when locking folk up.



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 07:04 PM

The piece of plastic that is your warrant card does not carry your powers. ie. if it is at home and you aren't you don't suddenly stop being a police officer. I've worked in plain clothes for a number of years in my service and have not once produced my warrant card when locking folk up.

Being in plain clothes is totally different from being off duty, I've flashed the badge and bluffed it before uniform turned up, with a pair of nasty shop lifters I 'detained'.
In plain clothes I would have my OS kit with me, a totally different scenario.
I always carry my warrant card with me, and producing it does away with the "you're Police prove it" debacle, when you can't produce anything.

Edited by gripper, 09 March 2014 - 07:05 PM.


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 07:13 PM

20 odd years in and never needed it off duty other than to pop in to a nick to use the bog !



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 07:14 PM

That is what my old force classed it as… but I do wonder what people do if they are not carrying their warrant card and become aware a crime has been committed. To ignore it would be neglect of duty but no means to ID yourself


I know it was your old force that was going to pay that PC 4 hours OT for making a phone call.

Shouldn't make any difference whether you are carrying it or not, I'd like to think we would all act accordingly and tie up the loose ends later.

Gripper is right with what he said but it would not change my course of action if I had to get involved.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 07:17 PM

20 odd years in and never needed it off duty other than to pop in to a nick to use the bog !

Lucky you, tell me where you live so I can retire there. ;)

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 10:27 PM

Lucky you, tell me where you live so I can retire there. ;)

A proper shithole up north! I just don't get involved in petty rubbish and when I have locked folk up off duty, I haven't needed it




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