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Poll: Proposed new area (13 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you like a 'no holds barred' area of the forum?

  1. Yes, I would be interested in an area like this (3 votes [23.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.08%

  2. No, I would not be interested in an area like this (8 votes [61.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 61.54%

  3. I am not sure/ I need more information (2 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

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#1 OFFLINE   Anna32

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

OK everyone,

 

The UKPO staff are considering creating a small new area of the forum which would be moderated substantially less than the rest of the site. This area would be for particularly robust debate, where members could really get stuck into issues and where we would only Mod for things like disclosing operational information, unauthorised commercial advertising and other serious issues. It would, effectively, be a 'no holds barred' area where people enter at their own risk and nobody holds back from saying what they think! .

 

Additionally, we could also move a few of the more heated threads in here, instead of locking them. As you all know, we hardly ever lock active threads and we've only ever done this when the debate has become unproductive by the standards of the main board, but we could potentially move these threads to this new area and leave them active instead.

 

This new area is not intended to replace the main areas of the forum, but it may be a useful addition to the site.

 

We are currently fine tuning the specific rules for this proposed area, but first we'd like to see if anyone would be interested in an area like this. Please complete the poll and let us know your thoughts.

 

 

Please leave any suggestions, queries and comments in the thread below! :smile:



#2 OFFLINE   Sub-seven

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:55 PM

Please don't.



#3 OFFLINE   onthesquare28

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:57 PM

I think it's an idea worth trying. If it gets really out of hand, you can always close it down.



#4 OFFLINE   Fritz@Customs

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

Please don't.

Seconded



#5 OFFLINE   Sub-seven

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:59 PM

There are plenty of other sites people can go onto if that's what they want.



#6 OFFLINE   Anna32

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:02 PM

(To clarify- if launched, it would be very small and something you would actively have to seek out. Nothing would change anywhere else.)



#7 OFFLINE   Fedster

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:02 PM

Could members give reasons Why they for or against,thanks.

#8 OFFLINE   Sub-seven

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:08 PM

Because it would be a bit like being at work.....



#9 OFFLINE   Traffic Rat

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:20 PM

I think the danger would be someone would overstep the mark in a comment, possibly directed at a poster instead of the argument and then someone else gets PSD involved. Ay the moment we can still have robust discission but know roughly where the line in the sand is.

 

Remove the line and well we know the possible resy, so I would say No on the basis of Prevention is better than Cure.



#10 OFFLINE   Anna32

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:27 PM

That is a very good point.

 

Hmmm... So if it were to go live- given the nature of many people's jobs here- it would need to be behind a lock of some kind or otherwise secured? :g:



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:28 PM

You only have to look at what goes on, in the Arrse site, to see what un moded sites are like. Not for me.

#12 OFFLINE   Bart

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

I thought that would be right up your street grips. :wink:

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:54 PM

I like to think, we have some structured moderating on here. And most of the mods on here,have improved. Though, not all ;)

#14 OFFLINE   Bart

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

we're both arrsers, its not that bad! :lol:

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:01 PM

Have they got mods on Arrse ?.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:04 PM

Yep, but they are like putting the fat kid in charge of the tuck shop! :lol:

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:28 AM

we're both arrsers, its not that bad! :lol:

 

 

Have they got mods on Arrse ?.

 

 

And another frequenter of said forum here.

 

Thing is we all see how that Naafi bar area of that forum ends up some times. And as is frequently commented on there, it's largely down to a load of of never served rub outs who get on there for God only knows what reasons, and just pollute the place with their tripe.

 

I think this idea might just end up a moderating nightmare and, if not modded at all, just descend into a chaotic mess.



#18 OFFLINE   Fritz@Customs

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:32 AM

Unfortunately, I think personal arguments on the "open" forum would spill over into other threads, making more work for the mods.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

I vote no



#20 OFFLINE   nigeltm

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:23 PM

I have to agree that the NAAFI bar on ARRSE is a good (bad?) example of what can happen when there is "light" moderation.  Yes, it can be very entertaining but you can get threads going out of control.  Does it spread outside the NAAFI?  Yep, it can do but that's where the forceful moderation comes in.

 

If a similar approach is taken here I'd suggest it's in a members only area with clear warnings on entry that it is an unregulated/lightly regulated area and the conversation may be "robust"!  Anyone entering the area would know what they can expect and will have no reason tocomplain if someone uses a naughty word.

 

On a more technical level, would posts from a members only area show up in the "New Content" listing for guests?  If they would the guest would not be able to open the thread but they would see the thread title.  If that thread title is "challenging" it could cause problems.  I'm assuming this wouldn't be a problem as we already have private areas and I haven't seen anything in New Content from them.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:19 PM

Technicalities are my area to overcome - I can pretty much sort any of that to be fair nigeltm but a very good point raised and hopefully addressed.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

Personally I find the moderation on this forum excellent. They allow robust debate without letting it get out of hand. I like the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

#23 OFFLINE   Anna32

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:00 PM

 

 Personally I find the moderation on this forum excellent. They allow robust debate without letting it get out of hand

 

:blush: :biggrin:

 

OK, thanks to everyone who has commented so far. There is lots to consider here already. It definitely seems like most people don't want a truly unmoderated area where anything goes (although from what I hear, nothing on earth could ever be quite like the ARRSE NAAFI bar...)

 

We will leave the poll and comments open for now and would encourage everyone to have their say- if you're opposed to the idea please don't feel like it's all already been said, and if you're in favour don't be shy about making your opinions known. :thumbsup:



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

I strongly advise any delicate wallflowers to definitely steer clear of arrse NAAFI forum! :blink:

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:44 PM

I was just wondering what gave rise to this idea? I might review my opinion if I knew...

..and I must visit this ARRSE forum . .what an unfortunate acronym!

Edited by onthesquare28, 11 February 2013 - 10:44 PM.





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