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  2. Durham or Cleveland PC Recruitment

    Oh yeah don't get me wrong I'm buzzing for it just saving the excitement for when I pass all the vetting and medical.
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  4. Durham or Cleveland PC Recruitment

    That's not bad. Though when I got in this time I couldn't wait to hand my notice in and get started!
  5. Durham or Cleveland PC Recruitment

    Yeah start date of march so gives me time to get back in shape haha
  6. Durham or Cleveland PC Recruitment

    Nice one! Do you know when you'll be starting? Pending the vetting/medical stuff?
  7. Durham or Cleveland PC Recruitment

    Thanks for the advice mate had my interview on Wednesday and found out Friday I'd passed! Over the moon to say the least.
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  11. Blackpool 'gas explosion': Three people injured 23 September 2017 From the section Lancashire Image copyright Lancashire Fire and Rescue Image caption The blast happened in Charles Street shortly before 18.00 BST Three people are in hospital following a suspected gas explosion at a Blackpool guest house. Fire crews and paramedics rescued two people who were trapped in the Charles Street building after the blast shortly before 18.00 BST. Lancashire Police said a number of people were also treated at the scene and advised people to avoid the area. The conditions of the injured is not yet known. Evacuation Residents of Charles Street and Milbourne Street, which runs parallel to it, have been evacuated by police. A safety cordon has been set up and roads in the area have been closed. Police advised people affected by the evacuation to seek shelter at St John's Church on Church Street or the Salvation Army citadel on Raikes Parade. View the full article
  12. Uber London licence: 'Direct anger at firm' says mayor 23 September 2017 From the section London Image copyright Reuters Image caption Some 3.5 million passengers and 40,000 drivers use the Uber app in London London Mayor Sadiq Khan says anger from customers and drivers over Uber losing its licence should be directed at the company. More than 500,000 people have signed a petition, started by Uber, to urge Transport for London (TfL) to reverse its decision not to renew the licence. TFL said Uber could not hold a private hire operator licence on the grounds of "public safety and security". The ride-hailing app firm said it would appeal against TfL's decision. The petition says: "If this decision stands, it will put more than 40,000 licenced drivers out of work and deprive millions of Londoners of a convenient and affordable form of transport." TfL's concerns include Uber's approach to carrying out background checks on drivers and reporting serious criminal offences. What does London's Uber ban mean? Seven things people will miss if Uber goes Your views: Uber London loses licence Women's safety fears over Uber licence Uber's licence is due to expire on 30 September. It has 21 days to appeal and can continue to operate while any appeals are ongoing. Reacting to the petition reaching more than 500,000 signatures, Mr Khan said: "I know that Uber has become a popular service for many Londoners - but it would be wrong for TfL to licence Uber if there was any way this could pose a threat to Londoners' safety or security. "As mayor of London I welcome innovative new companies that help Londoners by providing a better and more affordable service - but providing an innovative service is not an excuse for not following the rules." Media playback is unsupported on your device Media captionDrivers and passengers react to news that Uber's licence in London will be revokedFred Jones, Uber's UK head of cities, said the mayor and TfL had "caved to pressure from a small number of individuals and groups that want to protect the status quo and reduce consumer choice and competition from London". He said the company had operated in London for five-and-a-half years, during which it was audited by TfL. "The last time they audited us to check we were playing by the rules, they found that there were zero errors in our processes. "This was one of the strange things around the TfL notice yesterday is they are the ones who do all of the checks and licence the drivers." He said when a driver signed up to the app, Uber made sure they had all the correct paperwork from TfL and that Uber did not carry out background checks itself. In a message to staff, Uber's chief executive Dara Khosrowshahi said: "It's worth examining how we got here. The truth is that there is a high cost to a bad reputation. "It really matters what people think of us." 'Knew the rules' Kajal Odedra, UK director at, said it was "the fastest growing petition we've seen in the UK this year". "The speed with which this grew shows how powerful online campaigning can be." She said the petition showed how quickly the voices of citizens could become part of the debate between governments and corporations. Petitioner Glenn Gathercole, from London, said he added his signature because: "Uber provides a much-needed alternative to minicabs and black cabs. It is more efficient, safer and economical than the alternatives." Uber reaction around England Brighton: Local MP Caroline Lucas said Uber's business model was "irresponsible to the core" and that it needed to improve passenger safety so that it could get its licence back Bristol: The city council says it would "keep an eye on the outcome" of the dispute with TfL Cambridge: The council will "look closely" when it comes to renew Uber's current licence which will expire in December, reports Cambridge News Manchester: Uber Britania - a separate company to Uber London - is licenced until 2021 Nottingham: Uber has a licence until 2020, and the council has "no intention" to review it any earlier Woking: The borough council says it follows different licensing practices to TfL and has brought in a new strict criminal convictions policy And Twitter user @Gabbysalaza_ said she was "annoyed" at the decision as Uber allowed her to get out of "uncomfy" situations if out at night. Others have said that the ruling was within the company's control. Image copyright PA Image caption In 2015, hundreds of black cab drivers held a protest against Uber "Uber knew the rules. TFL asked them to comply with the rules. Uber refused. What is TFL supposed to do?" said political commentator Owen Jones. Danielle Louise‏ wrote on Twitter: "Londoners are literally more outraged at the loss of Uber than the fact women are being sexually assaulted in fake taxis." 'London is closed' Conservative MP and minister for London Greg Hands said, while the company must address safety concerns, Mr Khan was threatening to leave users "stranded" and put thousands out of work. Uber has said the move "would show the world that, far from being open, London is closed to innovative companies". But Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said TfL was there to "protect all of us and I think they are doing the right thing". Analysis: From BBC technology correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones Throughout its short, tempestuous life, Uber has clashed with regulators around the world - and more often than not it has come out on top. Its tactic has often been to arrive in a city, break a few rules, and then apologise when it's rapped over the knuckles. Some regulators have backed down, others have run the company out of town. In London, despite protests from angry taxi drivers, the company has had a relatively easy ride until now. But a wave of bad publicity about its corporate culture, its lax attitude to checks on its drivers and its treatment of this freelance army seems to have spurred TfL into action. Make no mistake, Uber will use every legal avenue to fight this ban. It will argue that consumers, in the shape of the millions of mainly young Londoners who rely on its service, will be seriously let down if it can no longer operate. But the courts will have to balance that with the serious concerns about public safety raised by TfL. Some 3.5 million passengers and 40,000 drivers use the Uber app in London. Wes Streeting, chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Taxis, says the blame lies with Uber for not following the rules. "You cannot have a situation where, however big the customer base or however big the driver base, an operator that's providing a service like this in a city like ours can simply flout rules and regulations and on things as serious as criminal records checks for their own drivers, and this goes to the heart of passenger safety." Uber controversies Chief executive Travis Kalanick, who helped found the company in 2009, resigned in July following a series of scandals and criticism of his management style In June, 20 staff were sacked after a law firm investigated specific complaints made to the company about sexual harassment, bullying, and retaliation for reporting problems At the start of 2017, the firm paid £16.2m ($20m) in the US to settle allegations it gave false promises to drivers over how much they would earn In October 2016 Uber lost a landmark employment tribunal in the UK that ruled drivers should be classed as workers rather than being self-employed A few months later Uber announced it would offer English courses, financial advice and introduce an appeals panel for its UK workers after facing criticism over lack of support and rights for its drivers In 2014 the New Delhi government banned app-based taxi companies after an Uber driver raped a passenger in his vehicle Uber stopped operating in Austin, Texas, when it was told drivers would have to have fingerprint background checks, but it reinstated its services after the requirement was ended View the full article
  13. holidays, pay and pension

    Public Holidays are additional to the Annual Leave entitlement. Don't know about overtime in the Met. Employers contribution on the NPPS is between 21% and 24%, employees contribution starts at 12.44%. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. All 43 federations sign open letter to Prime Minister demanding 'a properly funded and well-resourced police service'. Prime Minister Theresa May Those representing rank and file officers across the country have written an open letter to the government describing the recent pay award as 'derisory'. Representatives from all 43 police federations in the country endorsed the letter, saying “members were angry” and forces “had been put in an impossible situation.” Police Federation of England and Wales Vice Chairman Calum Macleod said: “We feel the government has not been truthful and honest about the pay award given to officers, and that is insulting. "The two per cent awarded has to come from existing policing budgets which means forces may have to choose between officer numbers and public safety. That cannot be right." The full letter reads: Dear Prime Minister, On behalf of the hard working officers who are working to the bone to protect our people, who fight to protect our communities and who keep you safe, we demand answers. And we demand that you tell the public the truth. About crime figures. About police numbers. About the ‘extra’ officers you pledge. About ‘extra’ money you say you will pay. No more smoke. No more mirrors. No more double standards. You expect officers to run towards terrorists one minute and then turn your backs when we ask for help so they can afford to feed their families. Families they barely see because of the hours they work to fill the void left by the thousands of officers who are no longer there because of your cuts. Officers who are now broken. Who are unable to cope with the mental and physical demands placed upon them by having to work in depleted environments. With out of date kit .With fewer people. With no support. One chief constable has just this week told you that 40 per cent of his officers have sought professional help for stress. It is the tip of the iceberg. Our officers are committed to serving the public. And we thank the public for their overwhelming support, particularly in light of recent incidents. But with 20,000 fewer police officers than five years ago it is no wonder we have seen crime rise and the service to the public suffer. This is not fair on them. And two per cent pay rise with no extra money to pay for it means it is the public who will yet again suffer and get even less of a service. So hear us when we say: The pay award of on average less than £10 a week is insulting. A two per cent rise is not a rise when it has to come from existing policing budgets. It’s a disgrace you have dressed it up as a pay rise. Funding must come centrally, it is unfair to make the public suffer with fewer officers available to fight crime. It’s a disgrace you have ignored the recommendations from the independent Police Remuneration Review Body – the very body you set up to advise on police pay. Forces cannot cope with any further falls in police numbers. Communities will be further under threat at the very time protection is needed the most. Community policing plays a vital part in intelligence gathering to help combat terrorism and it has been decimated. ‘Extra’ police officers are not ‘extra’ police officers. They are the same officers doing longer hours, being called back in when they are off or being given extra responsibilities. Crime is not falling. And answer our questions: Why was the independent body, which has awarded MPs and ministers a 13 per cent rise over the last three years listened to when the independent police body on pay was not? How can you justify these double standards? Do you think it is acceptable that the derisory pay award is expected to come at a cost of losing more officers? Our members have been failed by: The FAILURE to heed our warnings. The FAILURE to implement the very recommendations of the independent bodies you introduced. The FAILURE to support them and the police service as a whole. The FAILURE to help officers protect the country. The FAILURE to help officers protect the public adequately. We don’t want meaningless platitudes. We want a properly funded and well-resourced police service. The public rightly want and expect this. For the sake of those who put their lives on the line for the public we demand you address these injustices and give us answers. Members of the interim National Council View on Police Oracle
  15. holidays, pay and pension

    A few questions... sorry. 1, I'm told a new Met PC starts off with 22 days annual leave. Obviously that roughly just four weeks holiday. Do you get days in lieu for bank holidays etc that you can use to boost your holiday time? 2, Is there extra pay for working significant amounts of overtime etc? 3, How does the pension work? Assuming you pay in yourself and then there's some kind of contribution from the government. Do they match your contributions? Thanks
  16. Brexit: PM bids to break deadlock with two-year deal offer 21 September 2017 From the section UK Politics Related Topics Brexit Image copyright Reuters Theresa May will tell EU leaders there is a shared responsibility to make Brexit work "smoothly" as she attempts to break the deadlock in negotiations. In a major speech in Florence on Friday, she will say history will judge Brexit "not for the differences we faced, but for the vision we showed". The BBC understands she will propose a two-year transitional deal, after March 2019, ahead of a permanent trade deal. It could include payments worth 20bn euros over the two years. May 'to offer 20bn euros' transitional deal Laura Kuenssberg: A cash offer? The Brexit transition options A guide to the Brexit negotiations According to pre-released excerpts from her speech, the prime minister will say that a successful final agreement is in the interests of both the UK and the remaining EU countries. "If we can do that, then when this chapter of our European history is written, it will be remembered not for the differences we faced, but for the vision we showed; not for the challenges we endured but for the creativity we used to overcome them; not for a relationship that ended but a new partnership that began." She is expected to say, if the UK and EU can be "imaginative and creative" about establishing a new relationship, both sides can be "optimistic about the future". Mrs May will argue that it is "in all of our interests for our negotiations to succeed… so I believe we share a profound sense of responsibility to make this change work smoothly and sensibly, not just for people today but for the next generation who will inherit the world we leave them". The view from Brussels Image copyright Reuters Image caption EU negotiatior Michel Barnier will be watching the speech closely By the BBC's Adam Fleming Politicians and officials across the EU will listen to the tone of Theresa May's speech but they mostly care about the content and its effect on the Brexit talks. The UK's offer to pay its membership fees until the end of the seven-year budget cycle is more generous than Britain's pitch at the last round of talks but less than Michel Barnier wants. And the media has paid little attention to the impasse over citizens rights, where the EU fears its nationals will have to go through an unacceptable administrative process to stay in the UK after Brexit. Diplomats point out that talk is fine but the negotiations advance on concrete proposals, written down in legalistic documents. Brussels officials are also gripped by the political situation in the UK, with one senior figure suggesting the prime minister is too weak to offer anything big and might not even be in her job in two weeks' time. They are open to a transition deal but the further it deviates from EU membership, the harder it will be to negotiate in the limited time available. The BBC understands the prime minister will make what has been described as an "open and generous" offer, potentially worth 20bn euros over the two years - which could plug a black hole in the current EU budget, which runs to 2020 - created by the UK's departure. Mrs May briefed her top team at a marathon two and a half hour cabinet meeting in Downing Street on Thursday on what she will say in Florence. A government source said that the intention was to make the potential payments conditional on continued access to the single market and some form of customs union which allowed the UK to strike its own trade deals during the transition period. Media playback is unsupported on your device Media captionWhy Florence?Mrs May is not expected to say exactly how much the cash offer will be worth, the exact nature of the arrangements for accessing the single market or any conditions attached to the money in her much-anticipated speech, as these are subject to the negotiations in Brussels. Additional long-term liabilities, like EU pensions and debts, will also have to be dealt with in the talks to come, so the eventual Brexit bill is likely to be far higher than that 20bn euros (about £18bn). The prime minister is also expected to repeat her assertion that the UK will seek its own bespoke trade deal after Brexit with the rest of the EU. In a speech to the Italian parliament on Thursday, the EU's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier said that striking a deal with the UK was "in our common interest" but that only a year remained to come to agreement on the key issues - as six months would be needed for ratification before March 2019. Mr Barnier said he was awaiting "clear commitments" from the UK on the issue of guaranteeing EU citizens' rights, on the financial settlement and on the Northern Ireland border. Without those issues being resolved in a withdrawal agreement, there would be no transition deal, he said. The fourth round of Brexit negotiations begins on 25 September, with the UK due to leave the EU in March 2019. View the full article
  17. Sounds like you need to sever your direct links with this man. As I say family law solicitor is your only way to go. Court orders re child access and not to attend your address etc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  18. Am I getting 6 Points?

    Does quite work like that.
  19. Theresa May Brexit speech to be 'open and generous offer' to EU 21 September 2017 From the section UK Politics comments Related Topics Brexit Image copyright AFP Theresa May's speech on Brexit in Italy on Friday will represent an "open and generous offer" to the rest of the EU, a cabinet minister has told the BBC. It is thought that might include a guarantee that no EU country would lose out from changes to the EU's current budget as a result of the UK leaving. But another minister warned against offering too much money, saying "it's our only leverage". Mrs May briefed her cabinet on Thursday morning about the speech. The event in Florence is being seen as an attempt to break the deadlock on the negotiations, with the EU unhappy at the lack of progress on agreeing the UK's "divorce bill" from Brussels. Ben Wright: The Brexit transition options A guide to the Brexit negotiations Johnson denies cabinet Brexit split The cabinet meeting - which at two and a half hours was much longer than usual - came amid reports of ministerial splits over Brexit. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson was accused of undermining the PM with a 4,000-word article about Brexit. He subsequently denied reports he planned to resign if his blueprint was not followed and described the government as "a nest of singing birds". The foreign secretary and prime minister travelled back from the United Nations in New York on the same flight on Wednesday night. And in a carefully orchestrated show of unity Mr Johnson and Chancellor Philip Hammond - often seen to represent different views on Brexit - left No 10 together, smiling to waiting reporters. Debate ahead of the speech has focused on the detail of the time-limited transition period after Brexit, how much the UK will pay as it leaves, and whether it will continue contributing to EU budgets in years to come. So far, the government has said the UK will honour its commitments but that the days of "giving huge sums of money" are over. Downing Street has also described as "speculation" a Financial Times report that chief Brexit "sherpa" Olly Robbins, who reports directly to Mrs May, had told Germany she will offer to pay £20bn in the period up to 2020 to cover gaps in the budget left by the UK's departure. The fourth round of Brexit negotiations begins on 25 September, with the UK due to leave the EU in March 2019. Media playback is unsupported on your device Media captionWhy Florence?Analysis - By BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg We are one of the biggest contributors to the EU pot, so leaving dents the planned financial arrangements if we just go and take our cheque book with us. If that is the promise that is roughly to the tune of £20bn, although it would be surprising if Theresa May named a figure herself - it's not her style and any actual numbers will be subject to far-off negotiations. But in terms of the bill, that could just be the start of it. Plugging the hole in the current budget doesn't deal with what the EU sees as our long-term obligations - whether that's diplomats' pensions or our share of money that's been loaned to other countries. Read Laura's full blog The UK is keen to intensify their pace and open discussions on the country's future relationship with the EU, including trade, as soon as possible. But this cannot happen until the EU deems sufficient progress has been made on the initial subjects being discussed, including the UK's financial settlement. The two sides are also trying to reach agreement on the status of UK and EU expats after Brexit, and the impact of Brexit on the Northern Ireland border. The pro-European Liberal Democrats called on Mrs May to clamp down on Cabinet dissent by sacking Boris Johnson and to use her Florence speech to "drop her reckless insistence that no deal is better than a bad deal". The party's Brexit spokesman Tom Brake said: "This a chance for the prime minister to show she's listened to the message sent by voters at the election and to seek a Brexit deal that has majority support in the country. "That should include staying in the single market, separating the issue of EU nationals' rights so they are not used as bargaining chips, and giving the public a vote on the final deal." View the full article
  20. @Reasonable Man i did read into that coercive behaviour after it was suggested to me. In all honesty everything he's doing seems to fit with that. It's been over a year we have been separated and things are still the same with him. I give him easy access to his children and never restrict his access as I feel children need both parents. He's been violent to me in the past where I had to call the police and he was arrested and made to attend a group session about domestic violence for so many months. Social services were involved to determine if me and my children were still at risk from harm. I have nothing to hide from social services at all. I do my best for my children. I'm scared of making things worse between us as he can be unpredictable at times. I had to call the police last October after he burst through my door trying to take things from my house, he did this in front of our children
  21. I line of text on a public forum isn't policing, lazy or not. I mean when a real police officer attends a real incident and says it's 'civil'. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  22. More like Controlling or Coercive Behaviour. Speak to a family law solicitor about options to protect yourself from such behaviour. Then try the police but you will probably be in for a long journey with the police suggesting 'words of advice' being given, that may make the situation worse initially. You will then have to report every incident to the police and find yourself explaining the whole story repeatedly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  23. 21 September 2017 From the section UK Police arrest a 17-year-old boy in south London in connection with last Friday's terror attack on a Tube train This breaking news story is being updated and more details will be published shortly. Please refresh the page for the fullest version. If you want to receive Breaking News alerts via email, or on a smartphone or tablet via the BBC News App then details on how to do so are available on this help page. You can also follow @BBCBreaking on Twitter to get the latest alerts. View the full article
  24. Again, I'm no legal expert but i used to work in insurance a long time ago. As far as I remember by accepting the insurance policy and insuring your car, your insurance company are bound by the RTA to cover the car for 3rd party cover in all eventualities. This is a legal requirement. It doesn't matter what you then use the car for, the minimum RTA cover is still in place and is the responsibility of your insurer to fulfil. Technically your car had the minimum legal insurance requirement at the time of the incident, and no offence was committed. Your insurance company can in theory invalidate your insurance given this new information and cancel your policy - but they can't do this retrospectively. You wouldn't be covered for any personal losses (ie. no fully comp) and in theory your insurance company could have sued you for any 3rd party payments it might have had to have paid out if you had had an accident. But the fact remains your car had legal minimum of insurance at the time the police officer stopped you and therefore no criminal offence was committed.
  25. Am I getting 6 Points?

    Speak to your insurance about it. You may well have still been covered.
  26. Driving on Pavement

    Get proper legal advice.
  27. Is my ex harassing me?

    Could be. Call 101 to speak to someone.
  28. Not sure it's lazy policing answering a question based on the info provided. If it's purely someone locked out wanting to get in then other than violence to secure entry theres nothing else. Reads like Foulkes v CC Merseyside.
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