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MetPlod

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  1. MetPlod

    illegal lights

    I wasn't suggesting that the hazard lights would be used on the move, just pointing out that they are fitted and available. Doesn't mean that you can deal with them later. About two years ago I spoke to a funeral director about his private ambulance having a green bar light. I saw the same vehicle a few weeks later with the bar light still in place so the driver got a ticket and the owner another phonecall from me. None of them were Dr's and the vehicle was not used to transport GMC registered GP's. I haven't seen them since, but then I don't get over that part of London very much now.
  2. MetPlod

    illegal lights

    Purple lights are illegal as are green unless you are a GP registered with the GMC. You don't need bar lights. The hazard lights will more than suffice. For you info amber lights can't be used either.... Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 Reg 11 - Colour of light shown by lamps and reflectors (2) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light, except– a to k - skipped for the purposes of this thread. (l) amber light from a warning beacon fitted to– (i) a road clearance vehicle; (ii) a vehicle constructed or adapted for the purpose of collecting refuse; (iii) a breakdown vehicle; (iv) a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph or any trailer drawn by such a vehicle; (v) a vehicle having an overall width (including any load) exceeding 2.9 m; (vi) a vehicle used for the purposes of testing, maintaining, improving, cleansing or watering roads or for any purpose incidental to any such use; (vii) a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use; (viii) a vehicle used for or in connection with any purpose for which it is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 44 of the Act; (ix) a vehicle used for escort purposes when travelling at a speed not exceeding 25 mph; (x) a vehicle used by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise for the purpose of testing fuels; (xi) a vehicle used for the purpose of surveying; (xii) a vehicle used for the removal or immobilisation of vehicles in exercise of a statutory power or duty; (m) green light from a warning beacon fitted to a vehicle used by a medical practitioner registered by the General Medical Council (whether with full, provisional or limited registration); (n) yellow light from a warning beacon fitted to a vehicle for use at airports;
  3. To answer the original question it could be to do with validation of probationer training and where BTP started doing it house. Other than that I cannot think of a good reason why. I had a look at Surrey's recruitment criteria and it also wants BTP officers to do a two year probation.
  4. MetPlod

    TPT - Target Patrol Team

    Guildford, Reigate and Staines.
  5. MetPlod

    The Met Fleece!

    I can't be bothered to wait for it to be rolled out to my unit. I'll just wear the motorcycle one they issued me recently.
  6. MetPlod

    Hi Viz Jacket

    I would be removing the blue checker bands. I've had an unpleasant run in with travellers in a petrol station a while back whilst wearing an old job hi-vis. The blue bands were removed and it just looked like any normal hi-vis, but it didn't stop the verbal abuse. Suffice to say that I stopped wearing it and changed to a H-Belt. A fellow team member had a similar experience when he moved house. He hadn't removed the blue checker and his fully CRO'd neighbour instantly knew what he did for a job. He had nothing but problems with his police hating neighbour which culminated in a brick through his window. Now a bit more covert with his motorcycle wear.
  7. When the HATO service started a proportion of the funding for policing motorways was taken from the Home Office and given back to the DfT. The police present on the SRN may well have been in decline, but forces with motorways received extra funding. I used to work in a force who would put out 10 officers per shift to cover the motorways. Now we're lucky to get 4 per shift.
  8. Without wishing to start an argument, that was always inevitable when the HATO service was created. IIRC forces lost a lot of funding for roads policing which was clawed back to pay for HATO's. Whilst some might have viewed having police officers picking up debris from lane 2 as expensive, in the down time they were out enforcing the rules of the road. I travel to Birmingham quite a bit and I rarely see police motorway patrols. I see lots of crap driving though.
  9. MetPlod

    Transferring to Surrey

    That's good. I've got some good friends who i still speak to and by all accounts things have changed. It is a good force, it just didnt work out for me. The difference was minimal, but the reduced journey time to work was the main benefit.
  10. MetPlod

    What Kit Bag to Buy?

    I purchased the Special Ops Bag from Patrolstore.com two weeks ago. Very pleased with it. Excellent value.
  11. MetPlod

    Looking for a met style cuff holder

    They should be the appointment cars.
  12. MetPlod

    Uniform

    They are rolling them out to frontline response officers on the 32 boroughs. Traffic, STC and others have to wait.
  13. MetPlod

    Looking for a met style cuff holder

    It's rare that people think that met have good kit. I look at county motorcyclists and despair with how crap our kit is.
  14. Perfectly lawful. We can't enter houses, but we can take it from driveways and garages. The legislation in full..... [F1165APower to seize vehicles driven without licence or insurance (1)Subsection (5) applies if any of the following conditions is satisfied. (2)The first condition is that— (a)a constable in uniform requires, under section 164, a person to produce his licence and its counterpart for examination, (b)the person fails to produce them, and ©the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is or was being driven by the person in contravention of section 87(1). (3)The second condition is that— (a)a constable in uniform requires, under section 165, a person to produce evidence that a motor vehicle is not or was not being driven in contravention of section 143, (b)the person fails to produce such evidence, and ©the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the vehicle is or was being so driven. (4)The third condition is that— (a)a constable in uniform requires, under section 163, a person driving a motor vehicle to stop the vehicle, (b)the person fails to stop the vehicle, or to stop the vehicle long enough, for the constable to make such lawful enquiries as he considers appropriate, and ©the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the vehicle is or was being driven in contravention of section 87(1) or 143. (5)Where this subsection applies, the constable may— (a)seize the vehicle in accordance with subsections (6) and (7) and remove it; (b)enter, for the purpose of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a), any premises (other than a private dwelling house) on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the vehicle to be; ©use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by paragraph (a) or (b). (6)Before seizing the motor vehicle, the constable must warn the person by whom it appears that the vehicle is or was being driven in contravention of section 87(1) or 143 that he will seize it— (a)in a section 87(1) case, if the person does not produce his licence and its counterpart immediately; (b)in a section 143 case, if the person does not provide him immediately with evidence that the vehicle is not or was not being driven in contravention of that section. But the constable is not required to give such a warning if the circumstances make it impracticable for him to do so. (7)If the constable is unable to seize the vehicle immediately because the person driving the vehicle has failed to stop as requested or has driven off, he may seize it at any time within the period of 24 hours beginning with the time at which the condition in question is first satisfied. (8)The powers conferred on a constable by this section are exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 165B are in force. (9)In this section— (a)a reference to a motor vehicle does not include an invalid carriage; (b)a reference to evidence that a motor vehicle is not or was not being driven in contravention of section 143 is a reference to a document or other evidence within section 165(2)(a); ©“counterpart” and “licence” have the same meanings as in section 164; (d)“private dwelling house” does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling house, or any land appurtenant to The dwelling house. Relevant bits shown in bold.
  15. MetPlod

    New uniform

    I won't be wearing one either as I don't have a lined jumper to trade in and I refuse to waste public money requesting one purely to please a shiney arse civvies ill-conceived policy. They can also poke those dreadful abortion shirts.