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  1. Whats the point of the proposed 'protect the protectors' legislation if no one gets anything close to a maximum sentence under the current legislation and sentencing guidelines. There's a new story on the main PO site about a thug who racially abused an officer was openly admitted that he was a proud racist yet he on got 18 weeks for the abuse as well as other offences committed during the same incident. I wonder how much of that sentence was for the racial abuse and how much was for obstruction and being drunk and disorderly when a racially aggravated offence can lead to up to 2 years on its own. The new legislation is going to be meaningless unless it has teeth and both mags and crown court treat the offences seriously, but I suspect as with a lot of things the Tories do, they will make it sound good without actually having much substance.
  2. The journalist was over egging things a bit by stating that they 'stepped in' when the police couldn't stop the bike muggers as that makes it sound like they had patrolled the area or had investigated the robberies, instead of holding a demo. Having said that it is sad that they had to do that to try to highlight the effect of cuts.
  3. The MPS use of force probably has increased but not by the amount described in the article but their recorded use of force has increased. What the 'journalist' ignored was the comment by the MPS about changes to the recording of use of force meaning that everything from compliant front stack hand cuffing to shooting someone now has to be recorded along with the ethnic background of the suspect and the reason for its use. That change has come in during the last 18 months so it not surprising that the recorded use of force has jumped so much but that it can't be compared to previous years as they are not comparing oranges with oranges. The useless so called journalist obviously ignored that fact in the search for a good police bashing story. And remember folks the increased recording of use of force was brought to you by the party which pledged to reduce police bureaucracy.
  4. Yep that sums up a lot of what we are currently faced with on a day to day basis.
  5. ado

    'No offences revealed'

    There isn't an explicit definition although its use is a common sense update to some of the jobs response go to.
  6. I'm not surprised that detection rates are going down as there is too much pressure on limited resources. The population is increasing, crime is up and police numbers are down. Many investigations start with response officers but they are really stretched so that can do a comprehensive job in many cases so house to house isn't getting done as much, witness statements are being missed and suspects sometimes aren't getting arrested due to lack of staff or custody space. Further along the process investigation units are making decisions because its the easy thing to do rather than the right thing to do, we are filing jobs if the victim doesn't respond to our calls straight away and enquiries are often minimal rather than comprehensive.
  7. ado

    Severe mental Health Issues and joining

    Andre I'd give a f/t job as a PC a wide birth if I was you given your history and the stresses and strains of the job. There are however plenty of roles with the police where you could still contribute a great deal but without any side effects on your health. Alternatively dip your toes back in by becoming a SC again and see how it goes whilst your mental health improves.
  8. I was first on the scene at another nasty acid attack and saw pictures and video of the victim later after treatment. I can't imagine many worse forms of attack on a person as the physical and mental pain is permanent. At least with a knife attack damage is normally limited to the specific areas that the knife goes in so those can be targeted and treated by Dr's but acid spread and can cover a wide area of a body and keeps burning a long time after it is applied. It is a horrific weapon.
  9. ado

    Week in the life

    Its mainly office based.
  10. ado

    Week in the life

    My force doesn't have a single CID department and TBH I'm not sure how many forces do. DC's roles will vary depending on department but you can expect long hours of routine enquiries interspersed with long hours of intense activity if you are dealing with a big job or demanding prisoner or investigation. I'm a D on a general investigation unit and I get jobs allocated on every shift as well as dealing with prisoners response arrest, backing up complex or whatever unit has run out of staff so every day is different albeit with many being Groundhog Day. In one set I can deal with shop theft to PWITS, s.18 wounding, or a domestic.
  11. ado

    Worried About Starting Probation

    Everyone is nervous when they start in company so don't worry about feeling nervous. As to your other questions I'm really surprised that no one has explained how the tutor system and SOLAP folder works. Most forces put students with a tutor for 10 weeks which should be enough to get to a basic level of competency. You'll be subject to a review at that point and could get extended if you haven't reached the required level. Assuming you are doing OK you'll then be on your own working with your shift and working through the SOLAP folder but again with regular reviews. From my experience very few people fail the process but its natural to feel nervous about it.
  12. ado

    Any Tips?

    Expect to be shouted at the moment you open the door.
  13. That sounds similar to the Tories pledge to cut bureaucracy in the police, which of course hasn't happened.
  14. According to an article in the Guardian the loss of the days holiday as part of this agreement reduces the pay rise by 0.4% which makes the deal less generous than it first appears. It also locks in the pay deal for three years so if inflation stays at 2-3% years 2 and 3 of the deal will effectively mean further real terms pay cuts for the NHS. Its also interesting to highlight that whatever the Tories recommend to the NHS or indeed any public sector worker, ultimately benefits MPs as their pay rises are linked to the average rise across the public sector. As such their pay rise this year was boosted albeit marginally by our 2% rise, so they will also have a boost from the nurses 3.5% this year. Their rises are also affected by increased in the national minimum wage as many public sector workers are paid at that level as well as staff moving up pay grades due to increments to their wages. The Tories hate increments as they don't see why people should receive a pay rise for time served, yet they also see their pay increase because of increments in the public sector.
  15. ado

    Is it worth it??

    I love my job but one reason that I'd counsel against joining relates to the lack of government support for us and the constant undermining of our pay and conditions. Police are also a political football nowadays and we are under scrutiny from every muppet with a mobile phone as well as every political party and pressure group, all of whom want us to police in their way.