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morek54 last won the day on June 9 2015

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  1. morek54

    Dash cams and evidence rules

    A dash-cam would not, in itself, provide admissible evidence of speeding. Also, it will not automatically follow that someone captured on your camera driving [in your view] dangerously will be prosecuted. Lots of forces, under considerable financial constraints, try to deal with less serious cases out of court - for example, giving the offender the option of a driver awareness course. Of course you're welcome to further burden an already creaking system every time you spot someone overtaking where, in your opinion, it isn't safe to - or more appropriately, you could canvas your local council to look at speed calming measures etc. Or report your concerns to the Police, who may consider targeted traffic patrols - if it's really that bad!.. Just out of interest, how many accidents have there been locally to you if the standard of driving is that bad? I recall a few years back a situation where a local community were up in arms about "speeding" in their area - so much so, the Police set up a speed trap in response to their concerns. Those caught speeding where invariably the said local residents. There were no further complaints of the same after that...
  2. Not an insult - simply saying it as I see it. But hopefully you resolve your problem, whatever it may be.
  3. That's not strictly true if you are already lawfully on premises. It would be ever so slightly misleading to suggest that the Police need a power of entry in order to arrest for a summary offence if on premises in all circumstances. A summons would not necessary be issued. A summary offence is a case that can only be tried at a Magistrates Court, and carries a maximum sentence of 6 months. It does not mean a summons would be issued, though a summons could be issued as opposed to "charge". A summons is merely another means of getting an alleged offender to court to answer an alleged offence. Some sections of the Harassment Act are either way offences. Section 4 carries a maximum 5 years and therefore there would always be a power of entry to arrest for such an offence. Though, why I'm indulging you, I have no idea. It's clear that the Police want to speak to you about something, and rather than sort it out, you're looking to play silly beggars by your own interpretation of the law. Or that's how it comes across. Can I suggest you grow-up and sort out whatever the problem is like an adult. It's usually the way forward. Very few fight the law and win so to speak. You don't strike me as being particularly bright enough to be an exception to that rule. Mean't in the nicest possible way, of course!
  4. If someone climbs the fence, they may fall. Or worse still, they might rip their trousers. Or, god forbid, get splinters in their hands. Jesus, the fence might even collapse under their weight! So I wouldn't recommend it. But if this really is such a huge issue, then report it to the council.
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    Do you have a second job?

    Yes - but I manage to fit it all into my normal working day. I'm also a mental health professional, social worker, teacher, and increasingly a paramedic as well. In fact pretty much everything that other sections of the public service can no long do or don't want to do, I do instead.
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    bank holiday and rest days

    Company? Presumably he's a Police Officer if he's asking on here. In which case, Police Regulations will apply, which are the same wherever you might work. But here goes... A bank holiday cannot fall on a rest day. In a sense. they are two different types of duty. It will be classed as bank holiday leave and you will be reallocated another Rest Day. My understanding, and I stand to be corrected, is that if you volunteer to work on a bank holiday you will still retain your reallocated rest day. If it is a normal working day, which you are required to work in any case, you would be allocated another rest day - or, depending on your shift pattern if based on hours rather than days, this may already be factored in to the number of hours you are rostered to work over a 12 month period from the start. So it might not appear as time off in lieu on your overtime card if that makes sense...
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    Right To Remain Silent

    You are under no obligation to answer questions and have a right to silence. However, in English law if you remain silent and do not answer questions when formally interviewed under PACE (Police and Criminal Evidence Act) but then seek to rely upon a defence at court, which you might reasonably have been expected to raise during interview, the court may draw an adverse inference from a refusal/failure to mention it at the time.
  8. If you are on Police bail, then when you return your PACE clock effectively starts from where it left off last time you were in Custody. Generally, you can only be detained for 24 hours - notwithstanding authority for an extension in some cases - so if, for example, you were detained for 18 hours previously then you can only be detained for a further 6 hours on your return before they have to make a decision to either charge or release you. I cannot say whether you'll have to go in a cell or not - but strictly speaking, the Officers should be ready to deal with you one would expect, so the need to go in a cell would probably be unlikely. Your Solicitor should be aware of your bail to return date, if they were present when you was bailed, but to be sure it might be worth contacting them to check they will be attending to represent you.
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    HGV speed limit rise

    Bad idea. Personally, I think we ought to look at what other viable means of transporting goods around the country there might be, which actually reduces the number of HGVs on our roads. But then again, I speak not as an HGV driver, but someone who has seen first hand the sheer carnage caused by such a vehicle when a collision occurs against a much smaller opponent. And the HGV driver, in that case, was entirely at fault. I guess whether the restriction is 50 or 60 mph, it's always going to be terribly messy when something goes wrong. Which is why, rather than relaxing the law, we should be considering even tougher restrictions on HGVs. That point aside I doubt it'll do much to improve the general road etiquette of HGV drivers, either. Who, I hasten to add, are not adverse to thinking they own the road and moaning about other drivers - but conversely think nothing of just indicating and pulling out into the 2nd lane regardless of the presence of other road users. That's not to mention their penchant for impeding the free flow of traffic on our motorways and dual carriage-ways by painfully slow overtakes of their fellow truckers. It's almost like watching a snail and a tortoise racing each other. Alas, HGVs are a necessary evil for obvious reasons.
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    Dyslexic police officer about to resign

    I know of a few Officers, who are dyslexic. There are reasonable adjustments that can be made but he needs to speak to someone asap. He shouldn't resign. He should wait to see whether those reasonable adjustments help. I would urge him to not to do anything until he has explored all the solutions. Besides, the job is overwhelming and daunting for everybody at the outset, he's no different to anyone else in that regard. I wish him luck.
  11. You would be eligible at 18. But my advice: get some life experience first.
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    Pay day?

    It differs between forces.
  13. Sorry. But I think I may have heard it all now. Basically, you will get what you get issued. You might even get leather gloves as well - and certain parts of your belt kit will likely also be leather. You will need to buy your own boots, though, but they will need to be suitable and appropriate. Preferably leather as, certainly during your training, you will need to keep 'em polished and (presuming they still do drill) occasionally bull your boots for inspection. Not wishing to add to your woes, the inside of your patrol cap and beat helmet may also have some leather in them around the inside rim. And if you ever become public order trained, which can be compulsory depending on your force, you will be issued leather capped public order boots, which must be worn on mutual aid commitments. I guess, what I'm trying to say is that if you don't use/wear, it's a bit of an obstacle you may need to consider over coming if you're joining the Police. I take it you don't mind wearing black, though?
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    It is impossible for anyone to predict what will happen to you. It depends on exactly what you have done, but more so, what your motives were. For instance, if you did something in good faith with the best intentions, that is different from doing something wholly dishonest. You are fretting about this, that's clear, and I wish I could say something to reassure you but I can't. You need to speak to the Federation so that they can sort you some legal advice. Once you've actually sat down and gone through it all with the Federation and a Solicitor, you will have a better idea of what your position is, but more so how best to approach and deal with it. I can assure you, you will feel a lot better then. But here's not really the place to discuss it because some comments may only serve to make you feel worse. The point I would stress is that the worst thing you can do is ruminate about something you currently have no control over. You know what it is you did or didn't do. You just need to get the help to address the allegations you face. That is dealing with the situation rather than fretting about what might potentially happen if, and I stress if, any of the allegations against you are proven. Without further-a-do, I would contact your Fed Rep tonight. If I can give you one bit of advice though, don't say anymore on this open forum as to the circumstances of the complaint and what you may or may not have done.