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  1. Absolute sound advice. I to was given a good bit of advice from an old school bobbie that assists me greatly I was told to think of policing as this. Take an object in each hand and place it down on the table leaving space between them. Name the two objects as black and white or right and wrong. Now look at the space between them and call this the grey area. It is the grey area where we will spend all our time policing and make decisions on what is right and wrong. It is here where the difficult decisions need to be made of what to do and which side does it fall on, right = no further action or wrong = enforcement. However if you enforced everything in the grey area that could be wrong, you would get nothing done. Certainly assisted me in thinking about my decision making process.
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    Help please !

    I would also add the below point to anybody reading my view above, of how I would set out to research and gather the required information Some folk may look at my views above and think to themselves "I couldn't just go out and stop & speak to random strangers down the town centre to assist me gathering my information" If you are one of those who would find it difficult to go out there and talk to people, then a career in the police force might not be the right one...... Just something to think of. I know years ago, I couldn't have done it, but now talking to folk runs like water off a ducks back lol.
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    Help please !

    Ziggyboy, As Scary100 says, you need to "research" This yourself. The word "research" is key here. I am not telling you how to answer the question (my view could well be wrong) But I will explain below how I would plan and set out. If I were doing this, I would be out in my local town centre now asking the local people what public reassurance means to them? Do they feel reassured by their police force? If they do, why? If they don't, again note why? Also try and speak to a diverse group of people as you may find people from different backgrounds or cultures may have very different opinions of police and their feelings towards police. I would ensure I noted down the results of my research by noting the age, race, gender etc of the people I spoke to. This would ensure I got a full understand of different communities and I think this alone would give me a few minutes of talking time about the local communities views. Then I would visit the local police station (if there still is one open) and ask if i could have a quick chat with the duty inspector or sergeant as part of my research and establish what public reassurance means to them. These folk are the first port of call to members of the public who are not satisfied with the police and wish to complain about the service. These will be made up of both victims of crime and possible suspects and offender's I would ask them what is the root cause of somebody wishing to make a complaint? In my personal experience, most complaints from the public relate to not being kept informed well enough of their case (this is often due to officer workload, not having time to go back to look at older jobs and contact victims regular enough) and incivility from police officers (perceived & actual) If your research showed that indeed a lack of "being kept informed of their case" is a factor of complaints, that ultimately harms public reassurance, what will you do about it to help change things? Also I would read the code of ethics as the introduction and description of Sir Robert Peel's policing model he founded in 1829 is still used today. If used correctly, it should give you some more ideas to things to put into your presentation. Research the 9 principles of the code of ethics and decide if or how they could fit into the initial question your presentation is answering. And finally, once I had all the research ready to note down, I would ensure it flows smoothly and you explain how I had conducted the research. This could ensure the panel are clear that you have put yourself out there and worked hard to gather the information. Tbh it looks quite easy, but to somebody with no policing experience, it might be difficult to understand where to start. Your "research" is key to putting this together, but I think once you have all the answers to your market research, you will struggle to stop writing and be looking at what to take out to get it into the time allocated.
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    Teacher to Police Officer

    If you still really enjoy teaching but still have the urge to join the police,why not consider volunteering first as a special constable? This will give you a good insight but without as much commitment the job requires as a full time role.
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    Final interview

    Very quiet on here in my force area too.... The Merseyside thread looks a good one for supporting new applicants and recruits. I would add to my post above to keep in mind the core competencies too. The process you describe is similar to how it was years ago in 90s and early 00s with the group event, as a couple of my colleagues did it or something very similar.
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    Final interview

    Learn the 9 principles that make up the code of ethics so you can apply them to making confident decisions during the exercise may be an idea. I didn't do that process, mine was a 45 min final interview only. By what you describe, I guess they are looking for evidence of how you work as part of a team/listen to others and make sound decisions based around the code of ethics.
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    Hello and good luck with the application.
  8. Hello Scary100, Previously the in force attendance was 97%. Don't worry about that though as I believe this has now been removed in preference to using the Bradford score system to monitor sickness, which is said to be a better system. Anyone working for WMP with a Bradford score of over 100 may be spoken to by supervision and offered support etc. (My Bradford score at my medical was 3, but I had four weeks off following back surgery within the "previous 3 years" and that was fine. However my previous 5 yrs I had no absence, so I could have easily explained a genuine reason as I suspect you can. If you worked mon to Fri for example and had six weeks off, that would be a score of 30 (5 days X 6 weeks) Bradford score points, if that was your only absence in a 12 mth period. However if it was your 2nd, 3rd absence in 12mths the score multiplies and can multiply far above the 100 target very quickly, but resets to 0 again 12mths of no absence. They do ask you to go back and list all absence for the previous three years on your medical form. If they have any issues with it, the medical will be passed to the force doctor to look at and consider. This will be discussed with you at medical and could delay your application a bit. My advice would be to fill the application out and send it in. (Application form is arguably the most difficult part of the process where up to 85% of applicants could fail) once you pass initial application stage you will unlikely start before another 12mths have passed (it's a long process) by this time you have the chance of doing another 12mths absence free work which will support you if you did have an extended medical later in the process. In short, yes WMP take absence from work seriously, but they are not as strict as when I started over 8 yrs ago. Regular absence of a day here and a day there is taken far more seriously than a genuine longer period of absence. Hope this helps.
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    Applied for PC Sussex Police

    The process went very well and smooth to be honest, 10 months from application to accepted. My previous attempt in 2009 took me a year to get to physical test then placed on hold to 2013 and subsequently ended. The process has become far more competitive in the Midlands region and a little more difficult than in 09 with additional testing added for recruits since 2014. Namely situational judgment test, telephone interview and final interview added to the process along with needing a a/c score of 60% to progress. This is offset with a much easier fitness test than previously. Each force sets different requirements for applicants, but meeting the ppf competencies is a national standard for all forces on the application form, a/c and final interview. I didn't remember each competency word for word but the better understanding you have, the more likely you are to hit them in the tests without thinking too much about it. If I reflect back on my performance, I would have learned the code of ethics sooner into the process (didnt look at them until after a/c) The information contained in it really is key. Simply read the few lines about sir Robert Peel's vision for Policing way back in 1829. You should see its the same as today just worded differently. Also the 9 principles of behaviour are useful to know in advance. Hope that helps,
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    West Mids Anyone

    Anybody starting in the new year?
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    Applied for PC Sussex Police

    Be yourself, be honest, use examples of things you have actually done, not something you think recruiters would like to hear, and familiarise yourself with the police professional framework competencies which can be found on the college of policing website. Think about how you provide excellent customer service and display integrity at all times (you show you do the right thing for the right reasons) think about the behaviour displayed by others who have given you excellent service and the attention to detail that made their service stand out. Finally, read and understand the police code of ethics. Basically that worked for me.