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Precisely! Specials by nature are there to "Support" there regular colleagues which is just a dressed up way of saying, put your uniform on and do as you're told. Of course they have to be fairly competent but I don't think they should be expected to be as competent as regulars. I have no problems taking orders from a PC because I know it's probably in my best interest.

Yes I can understand it may seem a little strange but I do enjoy the job and I plan on becoming a regular PC (My day 1 is this month actually) for me I started as a part timer whilst still working to see if I could justify joining full time and taking the pay cut as my previous job paid very well - I soon found myself enjoying specialing more and honestly hating my full time job - so I quit my job, figured I had enough savings to go full time for a while and put in loads of hours whilst waiting for MSC - PC to open up again. I'd also like to add that the reason I left that paragraph to the very end is because it wasn't entirely serious and my main points were those listed above.

I appreciate this a slightly older post, but I'd just like to add some personal experience to this post. I myself am I special and I really hate to say it, but I do agree with a lot of what is being said here. Now, I am one of the few specials which are referred to as "full timers" I average 120 hours a month (What a nutter, I hear you say) well perhaps I am a bit of a nutter and sometimes I even question myself why I do it so much but simply put, I love the job. I've been in for long enough now that I'm considered "part of the furniture" I'm attached to an SNT and mostly follow their shift pattern, if team are down (which they are mostly nowadays) I'll volunteer to man up. I can and do write statements, I will happily do a CRIS, CRIMINT or MERLIN, I'm confident in the use of COPA etc etc, you will not see me turning down anything. I've done violent hospital guards, I've found a suspect package and attempted to shut down an entire town centre (80 and LFB also said it was dodgy before anyone screams "jumping the gun"), I've been first on scene to a domestic GBH, I've arrested for rape and taken the paperwork that comes with it, I've interviewed, helped people in mental health crisis, shielded innocent members of public from crazed men with weapons, I've put on more AirSpace tiles than I care to remember. My gist is, I do everything you guys do. Not all specials are like me, I'm fully aware, but I had to work bloody hard to be at the appropriate standard I'm at now and even now I'm learning something new everyday. I left Hendon after a 30 day intensive course which the met think it suitable for me to pound the streets and fight crime. Wrong. I didn't know a bloody thing when I left Hendon, sure I could recite the caution in my sleep and I knew how to textbook handcuff someone, but actual proper policing - I had no idea. The specials being produced now are the mets way of filling the gap that cuts have made, quick turn around, so it doesn't look like we have not enough officers and most of them are only doing their 16 hours a month, there's no way we can expect them to be anything close to how knowledgeable most PCs are, the fact is the Met are failing them and they know no different. I take exceptional pride in not only being a Special but also being a Metropolitan Police Officer and I will never shy away from work, griefy or not. But I appreciate again that I may be an exception and there are a lot of MSC Officers who do just want an I Grade suspects on and then home time. In my opinion MSC Officers who haven't been told they're competent by a REGULAR Sgt shouldn't be allowed to do team shifts, simply because no one has the time or patience to baby sit them and teach them things most team officers will already know. I think their place is in SNT, where there's more time for paperwork, you pick and choose to an extent the calls you take and there's someone to explain to you if you do something wrong and equally someone there to mention areas worth praising. What I will ask though is this: - I know some MSC Officers can be annoying, incompetent and sometimes just plain allergic to good old grafting but just bear in mind they probably genuinely have absolutely no idea what you're asking of them and this is embarrassing for them so don't be too harsh as I know I've been put down my regulars before simply because I have "S.C" on my shoulder. I'd also say aswell if you spot an officer on team who shouldn't be there please raise this with their line manager because they will keep on being put on team shifts until something goes wrong if it isn't nipped in the bud straight away, I know some officers might not want to "grass them up" but they won't become the officers they should be without appropriate intervention. Thanks guys :) P.S: The officer saying specials who commit full time are questionable because they clearly must not have a social life. You also work those hours, the only difference is you're paid and I'm not. Should I be questioning you as by your own definition you must clearly be mental as you don't have a social life

Still waiting guys...

Evening, - Aspiring met police regular, currently waiting to start my MSC training in October! Hoping to pick up some knowledge whilst I'm here before I start