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Control rooms between forces normally ring 101 unless it’s an emergency

You need to produce your certificates during the application process (normally at assessment centre). so if you have lost them, I would suggest starting the process of getting copies sooner rather than later as you will not be able to process without them.

Where in my post have I disrespected the armed forces?? Try reading my post again and then point out where I have supposedly disrespected armed forces? I was talking about access to policing info which I have on a daily basis from the control room with dispatch which the military or prison service simply do not have access to! You came on here asking for advice and you were given it! Take it or leave it! And for your info I am waiting for a start date for the regs!

No worries Moopheus, I think I would probably be the same in your shoes. Would definitely take a look at your side of the family then based on what you have said about wife's side and her uncle being a sergeant. Another angle you can look at is how long her uncle has been in the force for, if he had applied and got into the force after the issue on your wife's side then I would look at your side of the family if that makes sense?

Hi, I think you've have missed the point of kop1 and aero's posts and your response risks anyone helping you further with how that post comes across. It comes across as you not listening to advice. They have given you an idea on how vetting/police view things in terms of vetting and access to police data and you said yourself that you have already been given an indication from vetting about the 10 year period. I currently work in an operational role as police staff in the control room and the level of info police have access to far surpasses that of what the prison service and the military have access to on a daily basis on individual members of the public, intelligence info within local and national policing and/or on going major incidents. Everyone is sympathetic to your situation believe me but can tell you that the fact they have said/suggested 10 years definitely raises the seriousness of the third party link. For example, you may put the force at risk of you being discredited as a witness or officer for instance if ever you needed to attend court and the defence find out any info/links you may have to criminals! You or the force would not have any control over this regardless of how trust worthy you are and would seriously put a case in jeopardy. The succession of failed vetting applications with forces would also instantly raise questions when you place this on any future future applications and would recommend you may be take a break from applying and then come back and try again after a period of time? Good luck for the future in any case

My thoughts on the differences would be the nature and differences between being a police officer and prison officer, as oppose to the level of vetting. As a police officer (or any operational role in the force) you would have access to a number of systems which hold sensitive and confidential data on people such as PNC/Criminal record information that you would not have access to in the prison service. This makes a huge difference in terms of what could potentially happen to the information accessed. Just a thought! I do feel for you though as it penalises candidates such as yourself who have had no control over what has happened!

Well done @mozza28. I too passed my medical after a one off case of anxiety and depression in 2016! Occupational health totally understood my circumstances!

@Coffeebean123 which force was this for if you don't mind me asking?

Hi all, Can anyone working for the force (PC/and police staff) feedback on the pros/cons of the following shift patterns? 27/4 - 2E-2L-2N-4Rest days )foxed start and finish times) 3/3/3 - 3E-3L-3Rest days (with variable start and finish times) Have either of the patterns affected you personally? Any feedback would be most welcome :-)

Martyj - It is not old info, the screen shot that harryvonhoofing provides is exactly the same info thats on the link I provided. Maybe provide a link to this new legislation you are on about? I think Harryvonhoofing is right about this though, you are better off applying/starting again. If you are looking at the midlands area then West Mids assess on the written element along with Staffordshire. Don't think Mercia/Warwickshire are recruiting this year. Good luck what ever you decide to do!

Look at the link I have provided earlier in this thread above which directs you to the document that this refers to on the college of Policing website. http://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Support/Recruitment/Documents/2011_pass_mark_FINAL.pdf#search=SEARCH PASS MARK And any info that is provided before SEARCH is normally through a link that takes you to the college of policing website and this info has been consistent with all the workshops I have attended up to date. As I said, I'm happy to be proved wrong but at the end of the day this is all available on the college of policing website. The OP asked for advice and has been given it. Up to them if they (or anyone else looking for the same answer) decide to take it or not.

Screen shot which highlights that this is in fact the latest document on police standards in relation to SEARCH pass mark. I'm happy for anyone to prove this wrong.

As far as I can see that is the latest home office document that I'm referring too and I have read it as minimum pass mark for all sections need to be achieved (minimum written pass mark being 44%). Why don't you provide a link to the latest legislation that you are referring too?

I have just read this on the National College of Policing website.This reads that no force can accept a candidate who has not reached the national minimum requirement in any section. The link is http://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Support/Recruitment/Documents/2011_pass_mark_FINAL.pdf#search=SEARCH PASS MARK After consideration from the Police Advisory Board and approval from Home Office Ministers the national minimum pass mark for Police SEARCH® from 1 November 2007 has been set at: 50% of available marks across the assessment centre plus 50% of available marks in the competency area Respect for Race and Diversity plus 50% of available marks in the competency area Oral Communication plus 44% of available marks in the competency area Written Communication. It then goes onto to say: A force may set a score, above the minimum, at a level which past experience suggests would be achieved by the number of candidates for which vacancies exist. Any such score should be reviewed regularly to ensure that it continues to produce the number of candidates that matches the number of vacancies; with the score being adjusted up or down as necessary. Such a variable "cut score" could be justified as long as it has the effect of allocating places, as nearly as possible, to the highest scoring candidates. However, a permanently fixed local pass mark should not be set, as this could not be related to a justifiable criterion for prioritising amongst candidates who have achieved the national minimum pass mark. Forces should never appoint a candidate who has not met the national minimum pass mark.

Hi all, I have applied for one of these support roles and currently in the recruitment process. Can anyone tell me what the shift patterns are like please for either role? Cheers